# Can we get Faster Start up? **URL:** \ **Category:** EMU BLACK / CLASSIC\ **Created:** [June 12, 2024, 5:10pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/can-we-get-faster-start-up/1603 "2024-06-12T17:10:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ngt](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.ecumaster.com/ngt/32/1162_2.png) [@ngt](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/ngt)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 5:10pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/can-we-get-faster-start-up/1603/1 "2024-06-12T17:10:11Z")
I have noticed from the DET3+ and from Classic and Black Versus other ECUs DTA or Megasquirt… IT delays half a second more to activate spark. Fuel injection is good (since we have prime pulse). How can the spark calculation start faster and not wait a full cycle first to identify the TDC (or whatever is bothering it) ? ---
**Author:** ![GC8\_Lover](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.ecumaster.com/gc8_lover/32/1097_2.png) [@GC8\_Lover](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/GC8_Lover)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 9:29pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/can-we-get-faster-start-up/1603/2 "2024-06-12T21:29:24Z")
I’m actually very interested in this as well. I used to start my engine with half a crank before installing the emu black. It would be awesome if I could get it started like that again ---
**Author:** ![Greg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/71c47a/32.png) [@Greg](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/Greg)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 8:47am UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/can-we-get-faster-start-up/1603/3 "2024-06-13T08:47:45Z")
you can start it on wasted spark this improving cranking but trigger need to be asymmetrical not possible with multitooth ---
**Author:** ![ngt](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.ecumaster.com/ngt/32/1162_2.png) [@ngt](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/ngt)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 12:09pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/can-we-get-faster-start-up/1603/4 "2024-06-14T12:09:27Z")
First of all you assumed that i was refering to a sequential setup which is not the case, you can see it at the log as well there is a delay to detect rpm and to get syncronized. If you have worked on other model ECU or stock ECUs you would know what i mean… I think ecumaster firmware is conservative and want to make a full circle first before giving the green light ---
**Author:** ![Rhysmcclintock](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.ecumaster.com/rhysmcclintock/32/1178_2.png) [@Rhysmcclintock](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/Rhysmcclintock)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2024, 11:32pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/can-we-get-faster-start-up/1603/5 "2024-06-18T23:32:28Z")
Also interested in this 🙋‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![spiroskonst](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/839c29/32.png) [@spiroskonst](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/spiroskonst)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 12:48pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/can-we-get-faster-start-up/1603/6 "2024-09-12T12:48:23Z")
Did they fix it on v3? I’m using emu black with subaru style ignition 32-2-2 and i have 5 second crank. I brought it to a different tuner but Stayed the same ---
**Author:** ![ngt](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.ecumaster.com/ngt/32/1162_2.png) [@ngt](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/ngt)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 4:48pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/can-we-get-faster-start-up/1603/7 "2024-09-12T16:48:33Z")
5 seconds Crank is too much. Something else is the problem. Do you have access to the ecu ? If it reads rpm but it doesnt start propably is fuel related ---
**Author:** ![spiroskonst](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/839c29/32.png) [@spiroskonst](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/spiroskonst)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 8:16pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/can-we-get-faster-start-up/1603/8 "2024-09-12T20:16:10Z")
No fuel is ok the emu is slow to pickup the signal when the signal is present it fires and then everything is normal and the ignition is perfect (no ignition errors, no missing tooth) The engine is suzuki m18a with 32-2-2 crank sensor and running stock waste spark coils ---
**Author:** ![Giorgos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Giorgos](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/Giorgos)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 5:09pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/can-we-get-faster-start-up/1603/9 "2024-09-24T17:09:58Z")
I am also interested in the same problem (delay in engine start). My engine is Toyota 4EFTE 24-1 sequential ignition and injection, wasted spark only in cranking engine. (If i go seguential cranking , it dont start up) (EMU classic) ---
**Author:** ![Francisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Francisco](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/Francisco)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 8:05pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/can-we-get-faster-start-up/1603/10 "2024-12-22T20:05:29Z")
Hi, i would appreciate it if you could share with me how you were able to solve that problem.