# Emu Black DBW problem

**URL:** <https://community.ecumaster.com/t/emu-black-dbw-problem/1033>\
**Category:** EMU BLACK / CLASSIC\
**Tags:** how-to\
**Created:** [April 14, 2024, 10:09am UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/emu-black-dbw-problem/1033 "2024-04-14T10:09:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![EdgaRs](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.ecumaster.com/edgars/32/519_2.png) [@EdgaRs](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/EdgaRs)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2024, 10:09am UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/emu-black-dbw-problem/1033/1 "2024-04-14T10:09:18Z")

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Hello,  
Analog inputs see pedal and throttle plate.  
When i press pedal Under “Analog inputs” i see voltage change(TPS voltage, analog #3), so pedal working.  
When i move throttle plate with hand under “Analog inputs” i see voltage change (analog #1 & #2).  
When i check “Output tests” for H-Bridge #1A and #1B throttle plate moves i can hear that, see visually and also i see that on analog inputs voltage change.  
But when i press pedal throttle plate does not move.  
When i try “DBW calibration tool” i have got an error:“Theposition position of the throttle doesnt move. Plese Check if the position sensor and electric motor are connected correctly.”  
Triple checked the wiring all fine.

Here is video from screen: [https://youtu.be/mQ-BY5c244g](https://youtu.be/mQ-BY5c244g)

Car is VW Passat 1.8T APU, Bosch throttle 0 280 750 009

Please help.

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**Author:** ![Werwolf25565](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.ecumaster.com/werwolf25565/32/611_2.png) [@Werwolf25565](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/Werwolf25565)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2024, 2:02pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/emu-black-dbw-problem/1033/2 "2024-04-14T14:02:30Z")

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Hello,

Am i wrong or do you have + and - switched up on your second PPS ? (Analog 3)  
In your DBW Parameters it says further down that second Sensor is half of first.

 ![DBW](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/ecumaster/original/1X/22156dea245ec414a4874f2e35ff445838d6c5ca.png)

(Do not take any other Values. My engine currently doesn’t run either and i don’t know why. DBW works though)

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**Author:** ![EdgaRs](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.ecumaster.com/edgars/32/519_2.png) [@EdgaRs](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/EdgaRs)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2024, 2:35pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/emu-black-dbw-problem/1033/3 "2024-04-14T14:35:14Z")

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I found the reson. Was wrong settings under Sensor setup–\>Analog inputs. Now is working and DBW calibration tool did the job. When was calibration i saw throttle mooved from 0 to 100%, but now after calibration throttle do not respond when i press pedal, still something to research.  
In my opinion In your case Tps voltage = signal from pedal and Analog #3 should be inverted signal from pedal. When you press the pedal tps voltage should increase and analog #3 voltage decrease.

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**Author:** ![EdgaRs](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.ecumaster.com/edgars/32/519_2.png) [@EdgaRs](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/EdgaRs)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2024, 2:05pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/emu-black-dbw-problem/1033/4 "2024-04-15T14:05:13Z")

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What settings do you have Analog inputs–\>Sensor inputs for channel #1,#2,#3? Throttle calibrated for me, but pedal does not respond, voltage changing when i press pedal but throttle not moving.

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**Author:** ![Werwolf25565](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.ecumaster.com/werwolf25565/32/611_2.png) [@Werwolf25565](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/Werwolf25565)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2024, 2:19pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/emu-black-dbw-problem/1033/5 "2024-04-15T14:19:06Z")

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I’m currently at late shift. The analog input resistors are all on default. (don’t know what the value is rn. I think 1M pulldown or something)

Maybe as idea out of my head: remove the safety of 2nd sensor is half of first completely for now.

(And maybe 1-2 screenshots of the settings you have)  
And what is connected at analog #1 #2? #3 should be your second pps?

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**Author:** ![EdgaRs](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.ecumaster.com/edgars/32/519_2.png) [@EdgaRs](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/EdgaRs)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2024, 6:39pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/emu-black-dbw-problem/1033/6 "2024-04-15T18:39:16Z")

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Dbw sorted base map for audi 1.8t helped from [www.ecumaster.com](http://www.ecumaster.com).  
Car srarted, few things to finish.  
[https://youtube.com/shorts/LrE991S22ns?feature=share](https://youtube.com/shorts/LrE991S22ns?feature=share)  
Cant wait for V3 update and start tuning.

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**Author:** ![Werwolf25565](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.ecumaster.com/werwolf25565/32/611_2.png) [@Werwolf25565](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/Werwolf25565)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2024, 6:55pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/emu-black-dbw-problem/1033/7 "2024-04-15T18:55:27Z")

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Nice. 👍🏻 What was it in the end? Settings or something physical sival wrong?

My 1.8t AGU doesn’t start. Couldn’t find out what the problem is so far.

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**Author:** ![EdgaRs](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.ecumaster.com/edgars/32/519_2.png) [@EdgaRs](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/EdgaRs)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2024, 8:16pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/emu-black-dbw-problem/1033/8 "2024-04-15T20:16:24Z")

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I used the base map dbw started to work. Then i chaged ignition settings other way. 4-2-1-3 & 1-3-4-2,  
also changed fuel injector settings.

 ![Screenshot 2024-04-15 230034](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/ecumaster/original/1X/daabf7d317a140cd08bbb020c5a15065b643886c.png)

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**Author:** ![Werwolf25565](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.ecumaster.com/werwolf25565/32/611_2.png) [@Werwolf25565](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/Werwolf25565)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2024, 8:43pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/emu-black-dbw-problem/1033/9 "2024-04-15T20:43:55Z")

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With second PPS pot. Input active?

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**Author:** ![EdgaRs](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.ecumaster.com/edgars/32/519_2.png) [@EdgaRs](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/EdgaRs)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 7:49am UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/emu-black-dbw-problem/1033/10 "2024-04-16T07:49:30Z")

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Yes.

 ![Screenshot 2024-04-16 104712](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/ecumaster/original/1X/99d10ed34f71853ef6bdcf831ec1ae059b8b41e9.png)

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**Author:** ![Werwolf25565](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.ecumaster.com/werwolf25565/32/611_2.png) [@Werwolf25565](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/Werwolf25565)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 9:37am UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/emu-black-dbw-problem/1033/11 "2024-04-16T09:37:48Z")

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👍🏻 Looks good. Did you change a lot in the tables of VE and startup/cranking and Ignition?

Which injectors do you run?

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 10:38am UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/emu-black-dbw-problem/1033/12 "2024-04-16T10:38:16Z")

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Changed nothing to tables for first start. Played with ignition because car wanted to start and did not, was some pops in exhaust, so i changed ignition outputs and started the car.(i have old type coils with external amplifier, amp wiring confused little bit).  
Injectors is siemens deka 630cc/min.  
 ![Screenshot 2024-04-16 133217](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/ecumaster/original/1X/4c57f864d83b959a2cf2147050e9204b09b16066.png)

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**Author:** ![Werwolf25565](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.ecumaster.com/werwolf25565/32/611_2.png) [@Werwolf25565](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/Werwolf25565)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 2:04pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/emu-black-dbw-problem/1033/13 "2024-04-16T14:04:08Z")

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Oh. Those are good for quite some power.  
Could you maybe send me a screenshot of you primary and secondary trigger?  
and do you use the built in MAP-Sensor?

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 2:09pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/emu-black-dbw-problem/1033/14 "2024-04-16T14:09:18Z")

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Yes i use Emu Black built in map sensor.  
Her is triggers.

 ![Screenshot 2024-04-16 170610](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/ecumaster/original/1X/cb2064e4180868404d255727d02fafdb09ee7692.png)

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**Author:** ![Werwolf25565](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.ecumaster.com/werwolf25565/32/611_2.png) [@Werwolf25565](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/Werwolf25565)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 2:16pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/emu-black-dbw-problem/1033/15 "2024-04-16T14:16:40Z")

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Thanks a lot. I will compare taht on the weekend i hope. I think mine is different though. What year is your engine?

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 2:36pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/emu-black-dbw-problem/1033/16 "2024-04-16T14:36:31Z")

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VW Passat 1.8T APU 1999.
