# Evo 8 first start, wont fire **URL:** \ **Category:** V3 SOFTWARE\ **Created:** [July 3, 2024, 1:11pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/evo-8-first-start-wont-fire/1742 "2024-07-03T13:11:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Matthew121](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@Matthew121](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/Matthew121)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 1:11pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/evo-8-first-start-wont-fire/1742/1 "2024-07-03T13:11:19Z")
Hey guys, finally got most of my settings dialed in, was able to get a scop, and a log. The car will cranks, loads of fuel but not fire, can someone take a look and tell me what you think [v3 new map making.emub3](https://community.ecumaster.com/uploads/short-url/AlttqigzJGxMbwJyxDSPgXesqqS.emub3) (57.7 KB) [20240703\_0601.emublog3](https://community.ecumaster.com/uploads/short-url/1GAKWEvPeNlPn83BBvLy8g0IAUe.emublog3) (513.6 KB) [scope\_202473\_554.emubscp3](https://community.ecumaster.com/uploads/short-url/ysgQ4upTKMlC3lh6I0Qmii8o2p3.emubscp3) (564 Bytes) ---
**Author:** ![reaper\_XD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9fc29f/32.png) [@reaper\_XD](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/reaper_XD)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 1:16pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/evo-8-first-start-wont-fire/1742/2 "2024-07-03T13:16:15Z")
Try selecting invert phase under ignition firing order. I just had this issue. If your Ignition offset was 2 in the V2 software, that will likely be the cause. Let me know if it works! ---
**Author:** ![Matthew121](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@Matthew121](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/Matthew121)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 1:38pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/evo-8-first-start-wont-fire/1742/3 "2024-07-03T13:38:22Z")
My offset in v2 was 1. I will try and invert phase and see what happens. I am not the most experienced turner so with some of this I’m just kind of shooting in the dark ---
**Author:** ![ANDREI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@ANDREI](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/ANDREI)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 2:26pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/evo-8-first-start-wont-fire/1742/4 "2024-07-03T14:26:46Z")
Check your VE table, i am think your table similar with ignition and very strange for VE. ---
**Author:** ![Matthew121](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@Matthew121](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/Matthew121)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 2:28pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/evo-8-first-start-wont-fire/1742/5 "2024-07-03T14:28:59Z")
Unfortunately didn’t work. Also was told my ign outputs should be 1-22-1 This will not fire the car. Going back to 12-12 as was in v2 Gets the car to want to fire but still will not start ---
**Author:** ![Matthew121](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@Matthew121](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/Matthew121)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 2:30pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/evo-8-first-start-wont-fire/1742/6 "2024-07-03T14:30:37Z")
Good catch. I copied wrong tables from v2! ---
**Author:** ![ANDREI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@ANDREI](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/ANDREI)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 2:32pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/evo-8-first-start-wont-fire/1742/7 "2024-07-03T14:32:48Z")
> [@Matthew121](#): > > Unfortunately didn’t work. > > Also was told my ign outputs should be 1-22-1 > This will not fire the car. > Going back to 12-12 as was in v2 > Gets the car to want to fire but still will not start Please add cranking fuel ---
**Author:** ![Matthew121](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@Matthew121](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/Matthew121)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 2:34pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/evo-8-first-start-wont-fire/1742/8 "2024-07-03T14:34:27Z")
My VE table was my ign table. Fixing that now and will retry ---
**Author:** ![ANDREI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@ANDREI](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/ANDREI)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 2:37pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/evo-8-first-start-wont-fire/1742/9 "2024-07-03T14:37:08Z")
![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/ecumaster/original/2X/e/e4fc798ea864c961ce6d18b968f185b1a24a0c94.png) my cranking fuel table, your table have few fuel for start ---
**Author:** ![Greg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/71c47a/32.png) [@Greg](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/Greg)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 2:39pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/evo-8-first-start-wont-fire/1742/10 "2024-07-03T14:39:00Z")
1212 -it wont work because on V2 you assigning coils to ignition events not cylinder numbers in v3 you assigning cols outputs to cylinder numbers that major difference. Try to understand idea behind you assign output to CYLINDER NUMBER NOT EVENT and your coils are connected cyl 1 and 4 and cyl 2 and 3 together ---
**Author:** ![Matthew121](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@Matthew121](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/Matthew121)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 2:44pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/evo-8-first-start-wont-fire/1742/11 "2024-07-03T14:44:30Z")
That makes sense. I’ve changed back to 1221 Also added 250 and then 450 into cranking fuel. Still will not start unfortunately ---
**Author:** ![Matthew121](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@Matthew121](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/Matthew121)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 2:45pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/evo-8-first-start-wont-fire/1742/12 "2024-07-03T14:45:15Z")
My AFR’s are showing rich, at 11.8 after just cranking. So I am sure it’s getting plenty of fuel ---
**Author:** ![ANDREI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@ANDREI](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/ANDREI)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 2:54pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/evo-8-first-start-wont-fire/1742/13 "2024-07-03T14:54:41Z")
Please try with 100 and up, ---
**Author:** ![Greg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/71c47a/32.png) [@Greg](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/Greg)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 2:54pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/evo-8-first-start-wont-fire/1742/14 "2024-07-03T14:54:49Z")
also disable cam tooth sync window on primary is for completely different purpose . ---
**Author:** ![Matthew121](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@Matthew121](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/Matthew121)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 3:08pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/evo-8-first-start-wont-fire/1742/15 "2024-07-03T15:08:41Z")
I have. I’ve used 250 in cranking fuel. I’m getting a map and dbw error I remember in v2 a dbw error can kill ignitions channels. Not sure what the error is however [ ![IMG_7662](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/ecumaster/original/2X/c/cb9e61c2e915896c0a13dd841604748f2aebf386.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Greg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/71c47a/32.png) [@Greg](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/Greg)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 3:13pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/evo-8-first-start-wont-fire/1742/16 "2024-07-03T15:13:55Z")
those are historical errors only thing you interested is CEL status at the bottom btw your map is not calibrated properly (unless you are 2000m over sea level) ---
**Author:** ![Matthew121](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@Matthew121](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/Matthew121)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 3:18pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/evo-8-first-start-wont-fire/1742/17 "2024-07-03T15:18:39Z")
I am at around 5500ft elevation. Denver Colorado ---
**Author:** ![Matthew121](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@Matthew121](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/Matthew121)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 3:19pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/evo-8-first-start-wont-fire/1742/18 "2024-07-03T15:19:54Z")
Also I’ve reset the errors and they come back after cranking ---
**Author:** ![Jadzwin\_ECUMASTER](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.ecumaster.com/jadzwin_ecumaster/32/28_2.png) [@Jadzwin\_ECUMASTER](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/Jadzwin_ECUMASTER)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 6:00pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/evo-8-first-start-wont-fire/1742/19 "2024-07-03T18:00:07Z")
please ignore saved errors now, I need to check if it works correctly ---
**Author:** ![Matthew121](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@Matthew121](https://community.ecumaster.com/u/Matthew121)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 6:14pm UTC](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/evo-8-first-start-wont-fire/1742/20 "2024-07-03T18:14:57Z")
Okay no problem. Unfortunately the car will still not fire and I flooded it by playing with the above mentioned cranking fuel. Went back to v2 and struggled to fire the car through the flooding. But I did and it’s fine now. However v3 is still a no start [Next page](https://community.ecumaster.com/t/evo-8-first-start-wont-fire/1742.md?page=2)