VE now x3 higher after DBW conversion

Hi all,

New to the forum but use the Facebook group. Emu Black, Toyota 1ZZ, 310cc injectors, supercharged.

I’m having a weird issue, I’ve just upgraded to DBW from cable. Cable map drives very well and have had no issue with hundreds of miles. Now that I have i upgraded to DBW the VE table requires x3 the value it was with the cable throttle. VE increase confirmed by Lambda.

Used DBW calibration, all fine there, DBW opens as should. Nothing else has changed in the MAP.

I’ve also changed laptops.

Does anyone have any idea what’s going? I’m at my whits end.

Thank you

V2 firmware? what version(s)?

Can you upload the calibration from before and after?

Hi Floorit,

Thanks for the reply.

Version is 2.169 - Variables CRC = 423A & TablesCRC=2B93

October ‘24 tune running with cable throttle

Tune

Log

Can only post 2 links at a time.

New tune DBW barely idling with high VE

Tune

Log - The car runs at the very end of the Log

Thanks for all that.
Was hoping to see something obvious, but all the injector and MAP sensor stuff looks the same.
Fuel pressure isn’t a logged parameter, did vacuum reference or something related to the FPR change between these 2 logs?

things that would affect VE like this, injector size (effective, so includes dead time and fuel pressure), map sensor (boost leaks, reference point) and IAT.

IAT is reading believable numbers (10*c different though, not enough to triple VE)
Fuel injector data is all the same, assuming the physical injectors are
Fuel pressure I can’t see, worth investigating
MAP sensor reads the same at no rpm and pretty similar at idle/slightly above idle. I don’t see the DBW log hitting boost just yet, most of the log looks like start up attempts.

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Thank you for looking at this, really appreciate it. It’s great to have another pair of eyes, even just for a sanity check.

Everything physically is the same, apart from DBW haha. Yes, almost the whole log is trying to start apart from right at the end. I’ve been over the hoses, no leaks but will try a smoke test.
Injectors were cleaned and serviced in 2022.

I’m using the standard un monitored fuel pressure system. I actually emptied the tank using the fuel pump on Wednesday as the fuel was 4 months old and grabbing at straws, thought I’d put new fuel in. Flow was the same the last time I did it, but that’s nothing to go by haha

When I did get it running on the newest map it was running very badly, like it was intermittently/randomly missing. But pulling injector plugs and spark plugs did make it run worse, so couldn’t definitely pin point anything .

I’ll check fuel delivery, as you said, it’s the only unknown. Any tips or do I just need to put a sensor on it?
How do I check the vacuum reference?

fuel in the tank is the same ethanol content?

Yeah a mechanical gauge or sensor into the ecu is even better. If you run the fuel pump with the engine off, base pressure is usually 44 psi or 300kpa. with the engine running and making vacuum it’ll be lower, in boost higher.
make sure the fuel filter isn’t clogged as well

thinking about it more; at steady idle, the injector pulse width is quite different but the lambda and map values are roughly the same. To me that says fueling flow issue