DBW Output DC Drops - When Target 100%

This engine has ran 5 hours+ on the dyno for tuning and on circuit, however this issue has just started, all the forementioned were on older versions of v3 - I noticed it happen in 3.30 and I have tried 3.31. Not sure if it is a configuration issue, but it is repeatable.

Full throttle pull through one gear, then change gear, back to full throttle - the engine feels like it turned off…

DBW Target remains at 100%
Pedal Position is still 100%
DBW DC % drops lower? Confirmed by TPS % and TPS Voltage dropping, along with MAP dropping.

I have also tried keeping the pedal pinned at 100% when this happens, and after a few seconds it comes back and the revs continue…

What could cause the EMU to back off the Output DC when target is still 100%?

Edit - I also tried DBW re-calibration, no different.

please post log file with the issue and your project

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I have been for a drive this morning, and can repeat this every time, in 3rd and 4th gear. There must be 15-20 occourances in the attached log.

This is the same setup, throttle body as the engine was dyno tuned on without issue.

Wiring from ECU to Throttle Body checked.
ECU power grounds go to the engine block.
Throttle body is Bosch 0280750474

You can see it happen here, at 55s - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZxPFPEsc5c

pedal position problem or settings


your max valid pps check voltage is 1.92 and on log is 1.95
just to explain max valid voltage is not your calibration and should be set higher than actual voltage
max error is used for check between main and check voltage doesn’t applied to max valid voltage at leas i understand like that

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I expirienced something similar:


In some situations DBW target was at 100%…Output DC went to 100% but TPS just moved to 16%. Usually a stuck throttle thing, but it was reproducable just in higher rpms; never in standstill.
I also had a strange electrical phenomen with one AUX output.
Afterwards i upgraded my ground wiring (i just had 3 out of 4 ground PINs on the EMU connected; all combined in one line). Connected a big wire to the last ground PIN and connected it to chassis and never had problems again since that.
Probably my ground setup was undersized (or with a small hidden damage). Maybe u have a similar problem.

But is different sptry on the log as duty is dropping to 0% due to error.

Ur log shows both…first it is stuck at 50%DC…then drops to 0%…then jumps to 100%:

Yes out log yes but on the log on the beginning of this thread is clear error and 0% duty

As Greg wrote there is a problem with the PPS settings.
The ECU see voltage out of the allowed range.

When there is a grounding problem the noise will like increase with the RPM and other stuff that increase electric load.
Aslo the ECU process all data every 2ms, and log is 25, 50, 100, 250Hz depends on the channel. So some peaks on analogs channel can be not visible in log.

If you display Check engine channel you can see all the places where DBW error is reported. Then you can check the sensor statused in DBW log window:

Ah sorry…didn’t read gregs post cause i think we were writing at the same time^^. But yes u are right.

I’ve just added the following sentense to the DBW Help:

In most cases, throttle operation issues result either from problems with connecting the throttle motor and sensors or from the configuration of the throttle position sensors or pedal position sensors. If an error code for DBW (Drive-By-Wire) is visible in the Check Engine channel log, verify the statuses of the sensors: TPS main status, TPS check status, TPS check error, PPS main status, PPS check status, PPS check error.

Thank you all for the helpful replies. This now makes sense, I didn’t realise the “Check Voltage Min/Max” required some overhead due to potential variances. Looking at the log as you describe (and previous ones where this happened), it is the same fault every time.

This actually did happen with PPS check disabled too… but at that point the main PPS voltage was higher than the main check voltage max too, so again it would error. I think my max/min voltages for TPS and PPS are too tight, but now I know, i will move them slightly and it should be resolved.

What is the default action if DBW error? Drop DC to 0%?

@Jadzwin_ECUMASTER is the Check Engine field a bitfield if you export it to CAN? I will log it on external device if so.

Yes. Default action is to disable any current output and let the throttle to come back to the limp position by its internal spring.

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yes check engine is a bitfield

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